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Doug,

Thank you for starting this thread and of course I don't mind at all. Since the LDCCSW is an open group it will only go hand in hand with open discussions.

Doug I do accept you as a dear brother in Christ and an equal in the calling that the Lord has done through you. You are a brother and dear friend and will be one as long as I live. In fact when I got a better handle on this calling you were one of the first I sought for advice in this matter. I know I personally only want to do the Lord's will in all things.

So here we go.

That passage you have quoted was indeed by my predecessor. I have found it of interest as well since it was something he was pointing to that was not of himself. Personally I believe the place is indeed Independence and always will be due to this is what the Lord revealed to Joseph. We can only build upon what has been laid in the past. However due to condemnation the church had suffered in the past by not following all the Lord had revealed such as the Law of Consecration and attempting to overthrow Joseph Smith as Prophet, I am sure the land where the lot of the temple IS to be placed will have to be re-consecrated. The verse doesn't say a replacement place other than Independence but an appointed place of gathering that I would suspect IN Independence.

I am of course praying over the whole matter and other things. I have been fasting for the last week and will continue to fast for the next week.

I am reading your book with much interest. There is a lot of things in it the Lord is showing me as well. If I might be so bold as to recommend jumping down to the revelations that the Lord has given to me you will find that he is indeed calling ISRAEL in these latter days.

So with that I thank you for the questions (keep them coming) and I hope together we can truly determine the Lords will.

Your Brother in Christ,

Tom

Brother Doug,

I am glad to hear that you have a spiritual home where the spirit of God is also working. I hope God blesses them and keeps the good work going. Yes we of course don't see ourselves as the ONE true church. I don't think any movement within the restoration can. But I believe we as well as you are PART of the true church. I don't think any church can claim that title until all divisions and contentions have ceased and brotherly love in the bond of the spirit reigns.

I actually don't agree with the one prophet being at the head. I think this is too big for anyone other than Jesus Christ. Which is why I believe the Lord gave the revelation of the 12 being called to be equal with the First Elder in the LDCCSW. I believe we should all be working for the common goal of Zion and the restoration of Israel.

I have not finished your book but so far we are in agreement about Israel and it's History. I have just started Chapter 3 and feel the spirit of the Lord upon it.

It give me great hope what you have said about the Native Americans moving. They are part of Israel and it gives me comfort to know that God has not forgotten them and are calling them to their inheritance as well.

I of course want to stay in communication with you about all the things the Lord is doing and who he is doing it through. I know God will call others to share in the gathering of his people to Zion. Let us walk together in this common goal even though we are separated in name only.

I hope you and your family have a great sabbath day and 4th of July weekend. Talk to you when you get back.

Your Brother in Christ,

Tom

The following is a revelation received from the Lord concerning his feast days for the Latter Day Church of Christ with Signs and Wonders. It is meant I believe to be a guide for helping us all establish Zion and to become seperate from the world.



Revelation received July 24, 2009 by First Elder Thomas D. Arnold.

This revelation was received over the course of many weeks. First Elder Thomas has been praying for the meaning and way to celebrate the Feasts of the Lord in these Latter Day and to truly help restore Israel and Zion. This revelation is an answer to this prayer and is the Lords call to renewed covenant relationship with him.

Speak to the children of Israel who are my church in these latter days concerning my Holy Sabbaths. There have been many prayers and questions as to my Sabbaths and how to observe them. This is also part of the restoration work, for I gave my Sabbaths to be a sign for Israel that they were indeed my chosen people. Many false prophets have sought to change my holy days. This is the work of Anti-Christ as it says in the Book of Daniel, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time." Now is the time for the restoration to be finished and completed.

For the time has come to come out of Babylon my people and to establish the cause of Zion, which is the abode of my people Israel; For I will establish the covenant with you if you will only follow my ways and not the ways of man. Come out and be separate was the command of old. My Sabbaths are a way for you to come out of Babylon and walk separately so that the entire world will see who my people are. If you follow my covenant I will establish Zion again in peace and you will be a place of the Lord's peace and safety during the time of tribulation.

You shall seek to honor my Sabbaths among you in your holy places that I have set my name. You will follow the Sabbaths in your holy places until a time that I the Lord will have you build a house to my name in the land of your fathers. But first you must prove you are willing to keep the covenant with me. When you keep your covenants with me then will I the Lord speak again of a temple and a single place to gather. For what is a temple? It is a building that houses the true temple which are my people Israel. Become a temple in your selves then will I come to you and establish a house for all to gather together for the salvation of the world in Zion.

You shall keep my Sabbaths in my appointed times, however, you will not keep them by the Law of Moses as some have attempted to do. This Law was fulfilled by me as it states in 3 Nephi. The Law of Moses has ended in Christ. However, you shall seek after the Lord IN the Sabbaths. For the Sabbaths outline the plan of salvation for the whole world to see. By the Sabbaths and Feast Days of the Lord shall you be a light to the world and the saviors of men.

These are the Feasts of the Lord and how you will keep them in all of your houses and in the temple of the Lord when you gather. And you will keep them in their proper times. You will look at the times set forth by my other covenant people the Jews and celebrate them in their proper seasons. A calendar will be created for my people Israel so they will have

You shall keep the Feast of Passover in its season. When you gather together in the evening and you will remember and reconfirm you covenant with the Lord for the year. You will also remember your Lords passion as he gave himself for the life of the world. But you will gather together and partake of the Sacrament and remember your covenants.

You shall keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread. You will remember to put sin out of your life for 7 days and to truly keep your covenants at this time. This week shall be a reminder to you that you are dead to sin and alive in Christ your Lord. The first and seventh days of this feast are holy days of gathering to the Lord and you shall do no work and shall partake of the sacrament.

You shall remember the Wave offering of first fruits which shall be celebrated after the weekly Sabbath during the time of Unleavened Bread. On this day you shall remember the Lords resurrection; who was the first fruits from the dead that was presented to the Father on your behalf.

You shall keep the Feast of Pentecost or Weeks. On this Day you shall remember the giving of the New Law of the Spirit that is contained in the Bible and Book of Mormon. You will also remember the giving of the New Law between both houses of Israel. And you shall remember the Lords appearing on both continents and you shall make two loaves of bread that represent the two witness of God and shall partake of the sacrament from them. This shall be a holy day of rest.

You shall remember to keep the Feast of Trumpets at its time. You will blow trumpets to remember the coming of the Lord in Glory to redeem his people. You shall also remember this as the time of the giving of the Book of Mormon and the restoring of the Church in this last dispensation. This day also marks the beginning of a time of repentance and examination of self that will end on the Day of Atonement.

You shall keep the Day of Atonement to the Lord. You shall remember this day as a day of fasting and prayer and of rest. You shall remember on this day that it is the Lord who does atone for you by his grace and not by your works. You will confess your sins this day. This day remembers the driving out of Satan before the thousand year reign of Christ. On this day also shall you sprinkle your altars and the people with pure water to remember you are clean before the Lord and to remember your baptismal covenants.

You will keep the Feast of Tabernacles and the Last Great day in its season. This represents the thousand year reign of Christ and his saints on earth. During this time you will live the laws of Zion for seven days. You will gather together when the Lord builds up his temple and dwell as Zion. Until a temple is built you will gather together as Zion in your local assemblies or where the Elders designate to gather. You will remember the poor for seven days. On the first day shall be a day of rest and of gathering for the sacrament. This represents the first resurrection of the church of the first born and the Celestial glory.

On the Last great day, the eighth day, you shall remember the Second Resurrection of all mankind at the great white throne of God. You will rest this day from your labors and shall invite all to partake of this great Sabbath. This rest represents the second resurrection. You shall remember your dead especially on this day. For Christ shall offer the living waters of salvation to all who have accepted him in the spirit world. This day represents the Terrestrial and Telestial glories.

These are the main Feasts of the Lord that Israel shall observe for the rest of their days. When I cause a temple to be built then will you gather together on the Feasts of Unleavened bread, Pentecost and Tabernacles as outlined in the book of Deuteronomy. Until then you will gather at your local assemblies around your Elders and Priests.

I, the Lord, desire for all of my children to come to repentance and receive salvation. If any who are not of Israel wish to celebrate these feasts you shall not forbid them. However, they cannot partake of the Sacrament as it is holy. But you shall not forbid them to come and worship the Lord in his assemblies.

Use the Feasts to seek the face of the Lord. Look for him in all his ways and he will bless you. Look to him and live and become his covenant people once again. Flee from Babylon and help to truly build up Zion through his Feasts.

Hear the voice of the Lord who cries out to you to partake of the living waters of salvation.

Amen.

Thomas D. Arnold
First Elder, Prophet, Seer and Revelator

Servant,

Greetings in the name of Jesus Christ, I hope you have been well, we haven't spoke in awhile but I am glad that you found this post of interest.

I could not have said it better myself. Yes we are to purge the leaven of sin and then eat the new leaven or righteousness. Just as Christ is the bread of life. Unleavened bread is not considered "living" bread in most eastern traditions. That is why Churches such as the Eastern Orthodox church only take leavened bread during the Eucharist\Communion. So yes I agree with you. Israel coming out of Egypt is considered my most bible scholars the forshadow of Christ freeing us from the bondage of Sin. So what you have observed is correct. Let us not confuse symbolism with the actual grace. leaven itself of course is not sinful but in this case it is used as a symbol to represent something higher to the people of God. It is there to teach us righteousness.

In the modern sense are we not to still purge ourselves from spiritual Egypt/Babylon?

Thanks for the reply to this message. I am glad you read it and hopefully take something positive away from it.

May our Heavenly Father Bless you with all spiritual blessings in Christ our Lord through the Holy Spirit.

In Christ,

Tom

Servant,

Sorry it took me so long to answer. I usually don't get on the internet or the computer during Sabbath.

Well spoken again, I believe also in the "string" theory. I think however that most but not all need the string. I agree about the food laws, it is nice to see someone else who "gets it." The food laws were there to also to teach righteousness. It is amazing how many people today don't get it at all as well as the Holy Days. They are to teach us all of God's ways. I know it was the feasts that taught me so much of the plan of salvation and it's proper order back when I was in an evangelical style church. So I understand why they are needed again.

Blessings in Christ,

Brother Tom

Servant,

Yes that is one of my favorite verses. It does allude to the fact that the feasts will be kept during and probably after the thousand year reign of Christ.

I agree we need to start sometime. I think that is why the revelation has come forth. I know Doug has been talking about the feasts as well. I think it is time for Zion to start the learning process and to worship in spirit and in truth.

The feasts are from the Lord and are sign of the covenant with him and also a sign to others that they are different. We need to come out and be the light of the nations. I pray that we will be.

In Christ,

Tom

Servant,

Yes I agree with what you said. It is hard to be set apart when you believe what others believe and do what they do. I find it interesting that the 7th day sabbath was first brought back by the adventists in 1844. Same year Joseph died. Also then in the early 1900 the feast days were restored but through another group. So I find it all interesting to say the least it all came about in the same time span just by different groups.

Also I know the D&C you are talking about. I believe it was by JSIII. Further revelation was needed but I think you are right the people need to be ready to be Israel and the Kingdom. If we are to convince the Jews that we are Israel and that they too are part of the Covenant people with us then it is hard to say we are your brothers of the Covenant when we don't keep the sign of that covenant.

Plus I think we need to be examples of the Restoration to other restorationists as well. To restore the Restoration if you will.

Servant,

Thanks for the contribution, I am sure we can use it since there are not many hymns with this subject matter. Thank you so much brother. If you would like come check out our website (very basic) at www.ldccsw.org. From there you can jump to our yahoo group where all of our files and discussions for the church are posted for all to enjoy.

I also fellowshipped with Sabbath churches for a time and learned much from them. In fact the calendar I have posted is one from a sabbath site since it is the closed to the Jewish one. www.UCG.org I believe.

Would love to hear your input on everything.

In Christ,

Tom