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			<title><![CDATA[ Matthew 20:1-15 ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Matthew 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man, an house-holder, who went out early in the morning to hire laborers into his vineyard.<br>2 And when he had agreed with the laborers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.<br>3 And he went out about the third hour, and found others standing idle in the market place.<br>4 And said unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right, I will give you; and they went their way.<br>5 And again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour and did likewise.<br>6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and said unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?<br>7 They said unto him, Because no man hath hired us.<br>8 He said unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right ye shall receive.<br>9 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard said unto his steward, Call the laborers and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.<br>10 And when... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 02:57:35 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Communion - Renewing the Covenant? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Where do we get this tradition that taking communion is renewing the covenant between God and ourselves?<div><br></div><div>I find no scriptural basis for it.</div><div><br></div><div>The prayers are for blessing and sanctitification of the bread and wine to the souls that partake of it. &nbsp;It is to do it in rememberance of Jesus' sacrifice of His body and blood. &nbsp;It is a witness that we do always remember Him. &nbsp;It is that we may have His Spirit to be with us. &nbsp;It is that we are willing to take His name upon us. It is that we are willing to keep His commandments.</div><div><br></div><div>But I see no place where the covenant has stopped and needs to be renewed.</div><div><br></div><div>If you look at the covenant like a health and life insurance contract....Is it broken and you need a new one if you get sick? &nbsp;Do you need a new one if you die?</div><div><br></div><div>If we had to renew every time we sinned, we would do it more often than once a month.... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 04:56:25 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Scriptures of the Kingdom ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2781/t/Scriptures-of-the-Kingdom.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;#39;Times New Roman&amp;#39;; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">
Luke 4:42-44 <font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">And when it was day, He departed and went into a solitary place; and
the people sought Him, and came to Him, and desired He should not depart from them.
<br>
But He said to them, &quot;I must <strong>preach the kingdom of God</strong> to other cities also, for therefore I am sent.&quot;
<br>
And He preached in the synagogues of Galilee.
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:03:35 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Not by bread alone..... ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <p>I have tried to teach my son, Geoff, that he should get some scriptures every day.  He asked me to email them to him, so he could read them on his cell
phone.  I thought I might start posting them here also. So we all could get some scripture daily. This was the first one, back in April.  I will post more of
them as the days go by.  But if you see no scripture for the day....you may post one.  You may comment on them....but I am not seeking long discussions.  Just
a small meal to get us going.... 
<br>
<br>
Matthew 5:8 And blessed are all they that do hunger and thirst after righteousness; for they shall be filled with the Holy Ghost.</p>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:03:37 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ hmmmmm? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <font size="7"> D&amp;C 64:5a
<br>
...For he that is tithed shall not be burned...</font> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:07:37 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ High Priests ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2683/t/High-Priests.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ There has been plenty of debate on the office of High Priest since the RLDS break up in the 80&#39;s, coming mainly from the conspiratorial murmurs of Oliver
Cowdery, after he was put out of the Church, and from the research published on the &quot;changing of the revelations.&quot;
<br>
<br>
Some believe High Priests in the New Testament, or Restored Church were an invention of man.
<br>
<br>
I asked God about High Priests, and the answer I received was as follows:
<br>

<ol>
  <li>That Joseph was given more information about High Priests than we presently have, but was restrained by God from sharing because of the disobedience of
  the Saints at that time.</li>

  <li>That High Priests will have an &quot;critical&quot; role in the redemption of Zion.</li>
</ol>I open this thread for anyone who cares to explore the office of High Priest, and share their thoughts, feelings, opinions, revelations, or Scriptures
regarding this office - whether you believe there are such things as High... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:25:07 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ First Presidency ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Hello all in the Name of Christ,
<br>
<br>
I have just read some information on the Joint conference of restoration Branches and the entry in Wikipedia in the subject of the Restoration branches. Also I
have been looking through the D&amp;C about the subject of the first presidency. Some use the first presidency and some do not. I am of a group who does not
use this office. I would like to study with others to see where they do or do not believe this should be in use today. I know from the Bible and Book of Mormon
there really was no first presidency. Christ ordained only 12 Apostles (disciples, elders, etc.) and they collectively were the &quot;head&quot; of the church.
<br>
<br>
So now I also see from the D&amp;C that the 1st Pres was an office seperate from the Apostles?  Could this be because this was to be a temporary office just to
get the church &quot;going&quot;?  Or was it meant to go on within the church?
<br>
<br>
Just getting different opinions on this subject.
<br>... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 07:34:19 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Reliability of the Doctrine and Covenants ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2634/t/Reliability-of-the-Doctrine-and-Covenants.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ <p style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-outline-level: 3" class="MsoNormal"><strong style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Reliability of the
Doctrine and Covenants</strong></p>

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<p> </p>

<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">For years I put down the Doctrine and Covenants because of the &quot;<em style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">changing of the revelations.</em>&quot; I thought myself smarter, or more enlightened than others because of this knowledge. It
was only by the persuasive power of the Holy Spirit that I reconsidered.</p>

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<p> </p>

<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: justify; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal">One day while attending a class that was studying the Doctrine and Covenants, I had
before me a copy of the revelations, which I had downloaded off the Internet. It showed the... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Works vs Faith ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2570/t/Works-vs-Faith.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I continue to be amazed by how the Scriptures can suddenly open up something in such a way as to make you see something in a new light, and cause you to
realize your presumptions in the past were tainted by your own blindness.
<br>
<br>
Something I used to struggle with was Paul&#39;s argument of faith vs works.
<br>
<br>
Today, I was reading in Romans and realized he isn&#39;t actually making an argument against works, as in our actions.
<br>
He isn&#39;t saying it doesn&#39;t matter what your actions are, as long as you have faith.
<br>
He is specifically trying to show the Jews, and the Gentiles who are being &quot;put upon&quot; by legalistic Jews, that true faith in God trumps the works of
the LAW.
<br>
<br>
He is specifically talking about doing the LAW of Moses, which the Jews had a hard time letting go of in spite of their belief in Jesus as their Messiah. They
hadn&#39;t yet understand that what Christ did was to fulfill the law, and that faith in Christ had become the new... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:16:23 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ The Prodigal Son ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I have been considering the parable of the prodigal son.  It seems to me the two sons may represent the Gentiles and the Children of Israel, like in the
parable of the olive tree.
<br>
<br>
And....that the older is the gentiles, and the younger...yet to come back...is the children of Israel.
<br>
<br>
The gentiles are older....going back to Adam.
<br>
The children of Israel are younger....only going back to Jacob/Israel.
<br>
<br>
I believe many gentiles will have problems with them coming back....and the things the Father bestowes upon them. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:13:27 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Israel had Saul for a king. ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Something I noticed....
<br>
If we take the statement:     Israel had <strong>Saul</strong> for a king.
<br>
<br>
and take the Hebrew translation of the the word &quot;Saul&quot;......&quot;asked&quot;.....and replace it in the statement.....we get:
<br>
<br>
Israel had <strong>asked</strong> for a king.   Which is the story of how he became king........  <img alt="" src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/posticons/pi_smile.gif"> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:10:44 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Comparison of D&C Versions ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2463/t/Comparison-of-D-C-Versions.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ <div id="Book2_22636" align="center">
  <h1 style="font-weight: 800; font-size: 14pt; color: black; font-style: normal; font-family: Arial;">Comparison of D&amp;C Versions</h1>

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        <td class="xl2322636" style="width: 86pt; height: 51.75pt;" height="69" width="114">1833
        <br>
        Book of Commandments</td>

        <td class="xl2322636" style="border-left: medium none; width: 48pt;" width="64">1835
        <br>
        Kirtland
        <br>
        Edition</td>

        <td class="xl2322636" style="border-left: medium none; width: 69pt;" width="92">1844... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Doctrine and Covenants for the Community of Christ (CofC) ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2456/t/Doctrine-and-Covenants-for-the-Community-of-Christ-CofC-.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I noticed thath Community of Christ version of the Doctrine and Covenants is no longer available in pdf format.  Does anyone know what happened?  I ask because
I am wanting to put a copy on my new laptop but it&#39;s no longer available.  And I know that every section of this paticular edition of the D&amp;C is online
on official Community of Christ web site (Sections 161-163) and on the site centerplace.org (Sections 1-159) yet only Section 160 is not available online. 
Also I ran across a website one time that had on it an alleged prophecy by a catholic priest(?) from I believe switzerland in circa 1735 AD and it was
apparently about the Utah based LDS Church.  Does anyone else know of this alleged prophecy or know the website I am talking about or anything? ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:46:28 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ A Book of Mormon Pentecost/Endowment ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2444/t/A-Book-of-Mormon-Pentecost-Endowment.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ <p><br>
<br>
<font size="3"><strong><font color="#000099" size="4">This is taken from the book of Helaman 2:22-24 RLDS (Helaman 3:24-26 LDS)....
<br>
<br></font></strong></font></p>

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  <font size="3"><strong><font color="#000099" size="4"><font size="1"><br>
  <br></font></font></strong></font>

  <p><font size="3"><strong><font color="#000099" size="4"><font size="1">22</font> <font size="3">And it came to pass that in this same year, there was
  exceeding great prosperity in the church, insomuch that there were thousands who did join themselves unto the church, and were baptized unto
  repentance;</font></font></strong></font></p>

  <p><font size="3"><strong><font color="#000099" size="4"><font size="1">23</font> <font size="3">And so great was the prosperity of the church, and so many
  the blessings which were poured out upon the people, that even the high priests and the teachers were themselves <u>astonished beyond... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:27:03 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Israel and Solomon's Wisdom ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2427/t/Israel-and-Solomon-s-Wisdom.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ An interesting take on modern day Israel, and the wisdom of Solomon:
<br>
<br>
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=63536">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=63536</a> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 09:43:06 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ A "Mystery" to Ponder... ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/2402/t/A-Mystery-to-Ponder-.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <p>&quot;<strong>I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me</strong>; I was found by those who did not seek me. To a nation that did not call on my
  name, I said, &quot;Here am I, here am I.&quot; All day long I have held out my hands to an obstinate people, who walk in ways not good, pursuing their own
  imaginations…&quot; Isaiah 65:1-2 NIV</p>

  <p>&quot;<strong>I was ready to be sought out by those who did not ask</strong>, to be found by those who did not seek me. I said, &quot;Here I am, here I
  am&quot;, to a nation that did not call on my name. I held out my hands all day long to a rebellious people, who walk in a way that is not good, following
  their own devices…&quot; Isaiah 65:1-2 NRSV</p>

  <p>&quot;<strong>I am found of them who seek after me</strong>, I give unto all them that ask of me; I am not found of them that sought me not, or that
  inquireth not after me. I said unto my servant, Behold, me. Look upon me; I will send you unto a nation... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Wildman)</author>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:21:22 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Daniel 12 ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Daniel 12:4-9<wbr> But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and <strong>seal the book even to the time of the end</strong>; many shall run to and fro, and
knowledge shall be increased.
<br>
<wbr>Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the
river.
<br>
<wbr>And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
<br>
<wbr>And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by
him that liveth forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these
things shall be finished.
<br>
<wbr>And I heard, but I understood not; then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
<br>
<wbr>And he said, Go thy way, Daniel; for... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Is it &quot;really&quot; Impossible? ]]></title>
			<link>http://hopeofzion.com/topic/1136/t/Is-it-quot-really-quot-Impossible-.html</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Each week the Lord brings people onto my path for help and encouragement.  I have found a common thread that runs throughout most of there problems and fears.  <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>They live with doubt</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, having no hope that God can rescue them or save them from their trials.  Some have even fallen so far that they believe God doesnt even know they exist.<br><br>I can show them scriptures promising that before we were even formed in the womb, God knew us (Jeremiah 1:4-5).  Or the verse that teaches how God made mention of our names before we were born (Isaiah 49:1).  But even that is sometimes not enough when our problems seem insurmountable, even impossible for God to fix.<br><br>Yet nothing is impossible for God<br><br>Hear God say to the ancient prophet <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I am the Lord, the God of all mankind.  Is anything too hard for me? </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> (Jeremiah 32:26)<br><br>Hear what the angel said to Mary who... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:51:14 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Fruits are not Works? ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ So I'm reading Christ's sermon on the mount in 3rd Nephi this morning, and something finally hits me...<br><br>He tells us to beware of false prophets.<br>He teaches us to recognize them by their fruits, and that bad trees don't bring forth good fruit.<br>And then he says...<br><br>  &quot;Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven.<br>  Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name, and in thy name have cast out devils, and in thy name done many wonderful works?<br>  And then will I profess unto them: I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity.&quot;<br><br>Well, in the past whenever I read Christ's teaching about recognizing fruits, I recalled some recently fallen televangelists, thinking that here was an example of seeing bad fruit. But in the verse quoted above, Christ cites prophesying, casting out devils, and miracles as inadequate... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (bcoulam)</author>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:29:08 PST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Doing Greater Works... ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Now this is the commandment, Repent, all ye ends of the earth, and come to me, and be baptized in my name, that ye may be sanctified by the reception of the Holy Ghost, that ye may stand spotless before me at the last day.<br><br>Verily, verily, I say to you, this is my gospel; and ye know the things that ye must do in my church; for the works which ye have seen me do, that shall ye also do.<br><br>For that which ye have seen me do, even that shall ye do; therefore if ye do these things, blessed are ye, for ye shall be lifted up at the last day  III Nephi 12:33-35<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>All of us are familiar with the passage in John (14:12) where Jesus tells us that by faith we will do the works he did with the promise of doing even greater.  Yet in the Book of Mormon we find the Lord clarifying his intent with these words.  Here we find it is not a promise, <!--EZCODE ITALIC... ]]></description>

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			<author>feeds@kickapps.com (Wildman)</author>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:01:07 PST</pubDate>
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